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Post by timnet on Nov 2, 2023 10:32:49 GMT -6
Thấy thích EV nhiều hơn ha
Women cũng thích EV hơn Men
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Post by linhxa on Nov 2, 2023 10:56:30 GMT -6
Vì đa số thích hàng mới ..
I’m not a fan of EV .. on the flip side, electric bicycle makes best sense
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Post by floridian on Nov 2, 2023 11:12:12 GMT -6
EV thịnh hành nhất là bên Cali, và nhì là FL
EVs are great . Fast and quite. Virtually no maintenance . Can recharge at home .
My concern is the safety / fire hazard . Vài tháng trước vùng tui có vụ chiếc xe EQS mới đem về từ dealer về đậu trong garage làm cháy nhà ngay trong đêm đầu tiên .
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Post by linhxa on Nov 2, 2023 11:23:03 GMT -6
And EV cost 20-33 % more than ICE cars so does the insurance
Very boring car to drive… khong khac’ gì xe golf cart
Change of your car caught on fire is high compare to gas cap
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Post by cokoo on Nov 2, 2023 11:27:03 GMT -6
Nghe đâu tụi Toyota với tụi Ford tuyên bố dỏng dạt , bán EV hỏng có lời nhiều bằng bán xe chạy xăng.
Dùng EV đi tán gái là the best, chớ dùng đi du lịch loại long distance từ West coast sang East coast hoặc nguợc lại từ Bắc xuống Nam hay từ Nam lên Bắc vùng Bắc Mỹ là phải xem lại ...
Hay dân khoái đi camping vùng hoang dã thì làm sao dùng EV đây ?
EV chỉ tiện lợi cho dùng đi làm hàng ngày, hay du lịch kiểu short distance mà thôi ...
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Post by cokoo on Nov 2, 2023 11:33:14 GMT -6
EV thịnh hành nhất là bên Cali, và nhì là FL EVs are great . Fast and quite. Virtually no maintenance . Can recharge at home . My concern is the safety / fire hazard . Vài tháng trước vùng tui có vụ chiếc xe EQS mới đem về từ dealer về đậu trong garage làm cháy nhà ngay trong đêm đầu tiên . là vi thống đốc Cali chơi trò ăn gian ra luật áp đặt gượng ép dân chúng phải bỏ xe chạy xăng trước 2035. |
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Post by timnet on Nov 2, 2023 11:34:25 GMT -6
Nghe nói đầu năm tới là có lại cái deal $7500 tax credit back và EV ngày càng rẻ link |
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Post by timnet on Nov 2, 2023 11:36:15 GMT -6
Treasury Department aims to make it easier to get $7,500 EV tax credit in 2024
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The U.S. Department of the Treasury proposed a rule on Friday that would make it easier for consumers to get a $7,500 tax credit for new electric vehicles and a $4,000 credit for used EVs.
The proposal would allow all eligible buyers, regardless of federal tax liability, to get a full tax break.
It would be a point-of-sale purchase discount from car dealers starting in 2024.
Currently, those whose tax liability is too low may get a reduced credit or none at all.
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A new proposal by the U.S. Department of the Treasury would make it easier for consumers to get a tax credit when buying a new or used electric vehicle, according to tax and energy experts.
Its proposed rules, issued Friday, would let car dealers offer the EV tax break to consumers at the point of sale — regardless of their federal tax liability — starting Jan. 1, 2024.
What that means: All eligible EV buyers — and not just a subset of eligible, typically wealthier consumers — would get an upfront discount of up to $7,500 for new cars and $4,000 for used cars, experts said.
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“I think it is a real game-changer for all consumers to be able to get that rebate at the point of sale,” said Jamie Wickett, a partner at law firm Hogan Lovells which specializes in federal tax policy and energy. “Immediately, a $50,000 vehicle becomes $42,500.”
Big news for low- and middle-income drivers
Dealers were always supposed to offer point-of-sale discounts in 2024, as per text of the Inflation Reduction Act. However, the tax-liability issue was an open question.
As things stand, buyers only qualify for the full tax break if their federal tax liability is large enough. Otherwise, they may get a reduced credit or nothing at all. (That’s because the credit is “nonrefundable.”)
If the Treasury proposal is codified, it would expand the pool of consumers — especially lower earners, who generally have smaller tax liabilities — eligible for the full value of the EV tax credit.
“It’s great news, especially from an equity standpoint and for people who may not have as much disposable income,” said Ingrid Malmgren, policy director at nonprofit Plug In America. “It really will make [an EV purchase] more affordable for them.”
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They would also be getting that tax break as an upfront discount. Right now, buyers must wait until they file their annual tax return to get the credit’s financial benefit — potentially a year or more after the purchase.
Consumers will get that point-of-sale discount by transferring their tax credit — the new clean vehicle credit ($7,500) or the used clean vehicle credit ($4,000) — to a car dealer. The car dealer can then pay the credit’s value back to the consumer. The IRS expects to issue payments back to the dealers within 72 hours, Treasury said.
Dealers must provide consumers with the full credit amount available for the vehicle, and provide written confirmation of the amount and vehicle eligibility, Treasury said. The payment doesn’t count toward a taxpayer’s gross income.
The agency’s proposal comes as it has gotten harder for many EV models to qualify for the full $7,500 credit (temporarily, at least) due to manufacturing requirements included in the Inflation Reduction Act.
Consumers must self-attest eligibility
There are a few caveats.
For one, the Treasury proposal is subject to a 60-day public comment period and may change in its final version, though experts don’t expect any substantial revisions.
In addition, not all dealers will necessarily participate. They must register via IRS Energy Credits Online, a new website. Wickett expects most dealers to do so, or otherwise risk being at a “real competitive disadvantage.”
Buyers also must file an income tax return for the year in which the vehicle transfer election is made.
It’s also important to note that car dealers won’t analyze consumers’ income to determine if they qualify for an EV credit, according to the Treasury proposal. Buyers must self-attest their eligibility — and making a mistake could mean paying back the credit’s full value to the IRS at tax time.
I think it is a real game changer for all consumers to be able to get that rebate at the point of sale.
Jamie Wickett
PARTNER AT LAW FIRM HOGAN LOVELLS
They can self-attest their eligibility if they expect to be below the respective income thresholds in the year the vehicle is “placed in service,” Treasury said. They can also do so based on the prior year’s income.
“It’s probably best to know you qualified [based on income] last year or be very much assured that you qualify in the year you purchase your car,” Malmgren said.
These are the annual income limits for the $7,500 new vehicle credit: $300,000 for married couples filing a joint tax return; $225,000 for heads of household; and $150,000 for single tax filers.
These limits apply to the $4,000 used vehicle credit: $150,000 for married couples filing a joint tax return; $112,500 for heads of household; and $75,000 for single tax filers.
These figures are based on “modified adjusted gross income.”
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Post by cokoo on Nov 2, 2023 11:50:24 GMT -6
And EV cost 20-33 % more than ICE cars so does the insurance Very boring car to drive… khong khac’ gì xe golf cart Change of your car caught on fire is high compare to gas cap Cái chổ " Very boring car to drive" cái chổ rất nguy hiễm khi chúng ta lái xe đường trường 1 thời gian dài trên 3 tiếng dễ sang chứng "ngũ gục" , mà ai cũng biết đang lái xe mà có loại chứng này xem như điều đại kỵ đó ... |
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Post by cokoo on Nov 2, 2023 11:53:49 GMT -6
Nghe nói đầu năm tới là có lại cái deal $7500 tax credit back và EV ngày càng rẻ linkBên Canada cũng có policy "tax credit back" để dụ dỗ người mua vậy , nhưng người mua hỏng welcome nhiệt tình cho lắm . |
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Post by linhxa on Nov 2, 2023 12:07:56 GMT -6
Wondering why Toyota barely make an all EV cars. Because they don’t see good future for them. They believe in hybrid with lots of fuel choices
We need to utilize all fuels. Gas, deisel, hydrogen, compressed air, electric, cooking oil, steam turbine.. use them all
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Post by timnet on Nov 2, 2023 12:32:09 GMT -6
Wondering why Toyota barely make an all EV cars. Because they don’t see good future for them. They believe in hybrid with lots of fuel choices We need to utilize all fuels. Gas, deisel, hydrogen, compressed air, electric, cooking oil, steam turbine.. use them all Toyota nghĩ nếu jump right all in EV là quá lẹ, technology chưa mature , too expensive, và infastructure hạ tầng cơ sở như charging station, parts, technician, etc chưa có đủ để support |
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Post by timnet on Nov 2, 2023 12:34:15 GMT -6
EV thịnh hành nhất là bên Cali, và nhì là FL EVs are great . Fast and quite. Virtually no maintenance . Can recharge at home . My concern is the safety / fire hazard . Vài tháng trước vùng tui có vụ chiếc xe EQS mới đem về từ dealer về đậu trong garage làm cháy nhà ngay trong đêm đầu tiên . Một phần vì sunnier nên có thể dùng solar energy tech |
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Post by jubi on Nov 2, 2023 13:45:41 GMT -6
Jubi lái xe Toyota , bạn lái Ferrari . Jubi toàn có bạn mê xe . Rất rất mê .
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Post by linhxa on Nov 2, 2023 14:03:19 GMT -6
Jubi lai’ ferrari chưa
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